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		<title>By: Giant</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Giant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the idea of a monk being in social isolation is different though.  tyou could say that due to the highly philosophical nature of their self imposed isolation that they are being social with themselves and the universe.  they are not talking to others but they are having an inner monologue and if they become enlightened, then they are beyond talking to others, they are really now speaking with the very universe itself in that they are now one with it and dont see themselves as being a lone entity in it.  completely different mindset.  but that is what i think this is getting at.  the mental aspects of health. social isolation can allow the mind to go wild without check from friends and family so things start to become psychosomatic, and you can literally think yourself to death by becoming depressed and having a poor outlook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the idea of a monk being in social isolation is different though.  tyou could say that due to the highly philosophical nature of their self imposed isolation that they are being social with themselves and the universe.  they are not talking to others but they are having an inner monologue and if they become enlightened, then they are beyond talking to others, they are really now speaking with the very universe itself in that they are now one with it and dont see themselves as being a lone entity in it.  completely different mindset.  but that is what i think this is getting at.  the mental aspects of health. social isolation can allow the mind to go wild without check from friends and family so things start to become psychosomatic, and you can literally think yourself to death by becoming depressed and having a poor outlook.</p>
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		<title>By: Giant</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Giant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is interesting.  I think that people being social animals need that contact with other people.  just being around others and having an avid social life will help ease depression in some cases because theres less time to think about it.  also if you are a hypochondriac. your friends would be there to tell you your crazy versus you just thinking yourself sicker and sicker.  people need human contact.  we evolved as highly social animals, from highly social animals. our closest relatives, the chimps and other great apes are all social and have large social groups that have heirarchy and friendships made. it is rare to see a loner ape and they are much more likely to die young than those who are part of the group.  like the beatles sone says&quot;...I get by with a little help from my friends...&quot;.  we all need somebody to love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is interesting.  I think that people being social animals need that contact with other people.  just being around others and having an avid social life will help ease depression in some cases because theres less time to think about it.  also if you are a hypochondriac. your friends would be there to tell you your crazy versus you just thinking yourself sicker and sicker.  people need human contact.  we evolved as highly social animals, from highly social animals. our closest relatives, the chimps and other great apes are all social and have large social groups that have heirarchy and friendships made. it is rare to see a loner ape and they are much more likely to die young than those who are part of the group.  like the beatles sone says&#8221;&#8230;I get by with a little help from my friends&#8230;&#8221;.  we all need somebody to love.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denyse,

First of all, I&#039;d like to thank you for commenting and bringing your unique perspective to this topic.  You must remember that I did not conduct these studies.  I merely found the results interesting and interpreted some of the data.  I left a large portion of it open, which is why I asked questions.

Secondly, if you think an introverted personality type is someone who lives in complete social isolation, than you are incorrect.  No one is a complete extrovert or a complete introvert, rather we adopt different characteristics at different times.  There are many different &quot;kinds&quot; of introverts and extroverts, and it is not simply that black and white.

Introverts generally have an inward focus.  Introversion in and of itself is defined as: &quot;The direction of or tendency to direct one&#039;s thoughts and feelings toward oneself.&quot;  Where do you get the notion that this means an introverted personality type lives in complete social isolation?  Prove me wrong here.  Unfortunately, just telling me that I am proving your notion that extroverts don&#039;t get introverts is not enough.

If you live in complete social isolation, and I know that you don&#039;t, this would be considered abnormal.  Extroverts and introverts may be different, but all humans need social interaction to some degree.  This has been proven time and time again.

I think you got a bit confused with the quote about psychological distress.  It simply meant that that previous conditions, like a disease (be it mental or physical) was not the cause for the elevated risk of morbidity.

Buddhist monks live in communities.  They do not live in social isolation.  They live in monasteries.  I&#039;m not quite sure I see your point on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denyse,</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;d like to thank you for commenting and bringing your unique perspective to this topic.  You must remember that I did not conduct these studies.  I merely found the results interesting and interpreted some of the data.  I left a large portion of it open, which is why I asked questions.</p>
<p>Secondly, if you think an introverted personality type is someone who lives in complete social isolation, than you are incorrect.  No one is a complete extrovert or a complete introvert, rather we adopt different characteristics at different times.  There are many different &#8220;kinds&#8221; of introverts and extroverts, and it is not simply that black and white.</p>
<p>Introverts generally have an inward focus.  Introversion in and of itself is defined as: &#8220;The direction of or tendency to direct one&#8217;s thoughts and feelings toward oneself.&#8221;  Where do you get the notion that this means an introverted personality type lives in complete social isolation?  Prove me wrong here.  Unfortunately, just telling me that I am proving your notion that extroverts don&#8217;t get introverts is not enough.</p>
<p>If you live in complete social isolation, and I know that you don&#8217;t, this would be considered abnormal.  Extroverts and introverts may be different, but all humans need social interaction to some degree.  This has been proven time and time again.</p>
<p>I think you got a bit confused with the quote about psychological distress.  It simply meant that that previous conditions, like a disease (be it mental or physical) was not the cause for the elevated risk of morbidity.</p>
<p>Buddhist monks live in communities.  They do not live in social isolation.  They live in monasteries.  I&#8217;m not quite sure I see your point on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Denyse</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Denyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - interesting take you have on introverts - you confirm my position that extroverts don&#039;t get introverts.  

but moving from this point you say the article says there is an elevated risk to mortality - what does that actually mean?  What real data is there to support that claim?  
Further you or the article go on to say that this increased risk is not related to among other things &quot;psychological distress&quot; but how can anxiety not be considered a form of psychological distress, especially if it resulted in the physiological changes.

on to another point  - what about the elevated levels of peace, beingness and awakening that are found in yogis, Buddhist monks and many others -humans who choose to live in isolation and live good long supposedly anxiety free lives.  I think it is important to question ALL of our basic beliefs about &quot;human beings.&quot;  Is it really that we are &#039;social&#039; or is there something underlying this more surface/superficial label that is at the crux of who and what we are?   

back to you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; interesting take you have on introverts &#8211; you confirm my position that extroverts don&#8217;t get introverts.  </p>
<p>but moving from this point you say the article says there is an elevated risk to mortality &#8211; what does that actually mean?  What real data is there to support that claim?<br />
Further you or the article go on to say that this increased risk is not related to among other things &#8220;psychological distress&#8221; but how can anxiety not be considered a form of psychological distress, especially if it resulted in the physiological changes.</p>
<p>on to another point  &#8211; what about the elevated levels of peace, beingness and awakening that are found in yogis, Buddhist monks and many others -humans who choose to live in isolation and live good long supposedly anxiety free lives.  I think it is important to question ALL of our basic beliefs about &#8220;human beings.&#8221;  Is it really that we are &#8217;social&#8217; or is there something underlying this more surface/superficial label that is at the crux of who and what we are?   </p>
<p>back to you <img src='http://www.growstronger.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denyse, I disagree.

While the difference between an introverted personality type and an extroverted one may be large, it isn&#039;t important to this particular study.

Having very little to no social interaction is not normal for an introverted personality type.  It is abnormal in the sense that the human being is a social creature, which goes to show why some social interaction is necessary.

This article is not saying that you have to have a lot.  In fact, it isn&#039;t even saying that having a lot is beneficial.  It is just saying that very little to no social interaction, or social isolation, can have an effect on morbidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denyse, I disagree.</p>
<p>While the difference between an introverted personality type and an extroverted one may be large, it isn&#8217;t important to this particular study.</p>
<p>Having very little to no social interaction is not normal for an introverted personality type.  It is abnormal in the sense that the human being is a social creature, which goes to show why some social interaction is necessary.</p>
<p>This article is not saying that you have to have a lot.  In fact, it isn&#8217;t even saying that having a lot is beneficial.  It is just saying that very little to no social interaction, or social isolation, can have an effect on morbidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Denyse</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Denyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this fails to address is that fact that 1/4 of the population are introverts. By our very nature we have small social networks and prefer it that way something most extroverts don&#039;t get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this fails to address is that fact that 1/4 of the population are introverts. By our very nature we have small social networks and prefer it that way something most extroverts don&#8217;t get.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.growstronger.com/blog/morbidity-affected-by-social-isolation-but-why/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, very interesting.  I like the photo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, very interesting.  I like the photo</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes you want to go make friends!  Thanks for the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes you want to go make friends!  Thanks for the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why do you think that is the case?</description>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this to be very true.  Having a strong sense of community and companionship can affect how strongly your body fights disease.  Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe this to be very true.  Having a strong sense of community and companionship can affect how strongly your body fights disease.  Great post!</p>
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