Comments on: Strong Mind and Spirited Body: II – Biofeedback http://www.growstronger.com/blog/strong-mind-and-spirited-body-ii-%e2%80%93-biofeedback/ Grow Smarter, Grow Faster, GrowStronger.com! Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:28:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Chris http://www.growstronger.com/blog/strong-mind-and-spirited-body-ii-%e2%80%93-biofeedback/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Chris Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:14:24 +0000 http://www.growstronger.com/blog/?p=22#comment-110 Blake, I agree with your perception on meditation, it is truly an amazing phenomenon. Rebecca, It is interesting that you say that. Biofeedback machines give us the ability to sense things that you nor I would probably be able to sense. Yes, advanced practitioners of different meditation techniques have been able to become very in tune with their body. Probably not to the specifics that a biofeedback machine could tell you, but still with very amazing control. The point of a biofeedback machine is to make you more aware of what is going on. You could do one session of biofeedback and know more about what is going on SPECIFICALLY than if you did a year of meditation. Is meditation pointless then? No, not at all. It is a form of biofeedback, but it shouldn't be compared to a biofeedback session, only a different form of biofeedback itself. The idea of biofeedback definitely excites me. I am interested in trying out a session sometime to see if it delivers on its promises. I think if I was able to see myself with the ability of controlling my heart beat, it would freak me out. Blake,

I agree with your perception on meditation, it is truly an amazing phenomenon.

Rebecca,

It is interesting that you say that. Biofeedback machines give us the ability to sense things that you nor I would probably be able to sense. Yes, advanced practitioners of different meditation techniques have been able to become very in tune with their body. Probably not to the specifics that a biofeedback machine could tell you, but still with very amazing control.

The point of a biofeedback machine is to make you more aware of what is going on. You could do one session of biofeedback and know more about what is going on SPECIFICALLY than if you did a year of meditation. Is meditation pointless then? No, not at all. It is a form of biofeedback, but it shouldn’t be compared to a biofeedback session, only a different form of biofeedback itself.

The idea of biofeedback definitely excites me. I am interested in trying out a session sometime to see if it delivers on its promises. I think if I was able to see myself with the ability of controlling my heart beat, it would freak me out.

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.growstronger.com/blog/strong-mind-and-spirited-body-ii-%e2%80%93-biofeedback/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Rebecca Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:14:58 +0000 http://www.growstronger.com/blog/?p=22#comment-106 What an interesting subject! I would prefer meditation to a bunch of machines any day. I believe getting your vitals checked often is important, I prefer the gentler method of meditation, yoga, and positive thinking. However, this method of biofeedback is effective, and agree with Giant that mediation also makes my stress levels diminish, and my body feel at peace. What an interesting subject! I would prefer meditation to a bunch of machines any day. I believe getting your vitals checked often is important, I prefer the gentler method of meditation, yoga, and positive thinking. However, this method of biofeedback is effective, and agree with Giant that mediation also makes my stress levels diminish, and my body feel at peace.

]]> By: Giant http://www.growstronger.com/blog/strong-mind-and-spirited-body-ii-%e2%80%93-biofeedback/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Giant Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:50:35 +0000 http://www.growstronger.com/blog/?p=22#comment-104 I have also heard of certain monks that could even change the blood flow in their body to the point of being able to reduce flow so much that they could stick a nail through one hand it upon removal there would be no bleeding. I think that this mind body connection and the power that mind can have over what most see an involuntary processes is what the chinese were getting at when they describe the Chi-energy. this is how certain kung fu masters can be hit in the head with a brick and have the brick break when they have their heads laid down on a pillow of concrete, or how some can bend swords with their abs by having the blade thrust at their stomachs. being able to train your mind to sense and be aware of these minute processes can enable some extraordinary things to happen. Personally I can do none of these things, but i can meditate, and I am always amazed at how much better I feel after a meditation. No matter how I feel going in, no matter how stressful my day was and how skeptical I feel that meditating is going to make me feel better, it always works. There are also many many different meditation techniques and styles to suit many different types of people and it doesnt have to be religious. on the other hand if you want it to be religious, it doesnt have to be buddhist or hindu. saying the rosary over and over, is like reciting a buddhist mantra. to me saying you dont have time to meditate in a hectic day is just an excuse. its like something I heard someone say about exercising. Its not that exercising takes time out of your life, its that exercising puts time back IN your life. its the idea of delayed gratification. If you take a little time to do something you may not want to do now, the benefits will be ten fold later. I have also heard of certain monks that could even change the blood flow in their body to the point of being able to reduce flow so much that they could stick a nail through one hand it upon removal there would be no bleeding. I think that this mind body connection and the power that mind can have over what most see an involuntary processes is what the chinese were getting at when they describe the Chi-energy. this is how certain kung fu masters can be hit in the head with a brick and have the brick break when they have their heads laid down on a pillow of concrete, or how some can bend swords with their abs by having the blade thrust at their stomachs. being able to train your mind to sense and be aware of these minute processes can enable some extraordinary things to happen.

Personally I can do none of these things, but i can meditate, and I am always amazed at how much better I feel after a meditation. No matter how I feel going in, no matter how stressful my day was and how skeptical I feel that meditating is going to make me feel better, it always works. There are also many many different meditation techniques and styles to suit many different types of people and it doesnt have to be religious. on the other hand if you want it to be religious, it doesnt have to be buddhist or hindu. saying the rosary over and over, is like reciting a buddhist mantra.

to me saying you dont have time to meditate in a hectic day is just an excuse. its like something I heard someone say about exercising. Its not that exercising takes time out of your life, its that exercising puts time back IN your life. its the idea of delayed gratification. If you take a little time to do something you may not want to do now, the benefits will be ten fold later.

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